Exotica Radio Show Podcast-November 19, 2010-Randy Maugans with Nigel Kerner, Dr. Andrew Silverman, and Professor John Biggerstaff-Part 2 of a 2-Part Series
Part 1
The second installment of the interview summarizes the first show and covers some new ideas: What is a soul? Greys-synthetic manufactured robotoids; the real “big bang”—Godhead Singualrity; Godverse v. universe of atoms/2nd law of thermodynamics; the genetic manipulation of humans by the greys—de-volution and soul implants; the soul trap of the incarnation cycles;”Sim Card Man”, and the Shroud of Turin:
If the Shroud of Turin was indeed created by the same phenomenon that allowed Jesus to ‘glow brighter than the sun’ in front of James, Peter and John, known as the ‘Transfiguration’ then the remarkable features that this cloth has been found to possess could have a clear explanation.
Could a momentary burst of radiant energy, a transfiguration account for these properties? In 2008 an Italian group of scientists researching this possibility presented their conclusions at the Ohio Shroud Conference:
“In summary, our results do not rule out the possibility that a short and intense burst of directional UV radiation, having a very narrow set of duration/intensity/wavelength values, may have played a role in the formation of the body image on the Turin Shroud…. The enigma of the origin of the body image of the Turin Shroud still “is a challenge to our intelligence”
Could this burst of laser-like radiation have been produced by the conversion of the very atoms of Christ’s body into light? If this was indeed the case it is no surprise that there is no laser powerful enough to deliver such a blast of radiation!
Einstein’s famous equation describing the fact that mass is really an expression of energy E=MC² describes the fact that mass or matter is ‘condensed’ energy. Energy is an expression of force and force is a product of the state of separation of points. Levels of separation and therefore force are increasing in time due to the entropic momentums of a physical Universe. Based on this fact I am going to put before you a remarkable proposition:
Is it possible that through thought and behavior that binds and unites, in other words through that much misused word ‘love,’ Jesus Christ lessened the force of his own atoms such that their condensed energy was liberated in a blaze of transfiguration? – Nigel Kerner, “Brighter Than The Sun”
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Seems like pretty standard gnosticism. I don’t think the “aliens” really care if people believe they are evil robots trying to mess with our DNA or benevolent space brothers come to save us as long as you throw out Jesus in the process.
All this kind of stuff is very exciting but there is probably more danger of “Soul Harvesting” from teachers who promote the idea that the God of the bible was a cruel alien tinkering with DNA and that Jesus was just a really enlightened guy who worked out the secret than from being kidnapped by space robots.
I don’t recall ” the God of the bible was a cruel alien tinkering with DNA” being spoken of in the show. Religious people don’t care about the aliens because they are asleep and their religious leaders with their narrow interpretations of the “scriptures” told them they are “demons”…even though they wouldn’t know a demon if it bit them on the ass. I know…I was in the church…they are clueless.
You sound like you have your mind made up. Nothing to see here…move on…move on.
Well, I picked up on the heavily gnostic elements of what Mr.Kerner was saying and checked out his website.
In his article “Our father who art from spaceships” he makes the case that the God of the bible was evil and actually a race of oppressive alien robots who created and farmed humans using DNA manipulation.
“Having my mind made up” is not quite accurate in the sense that it isn’t a completely intellectual decision on my part, but I have faith that the God of the bible created man, and that Jesus is God, and that to trust in this is the means of salvation.
With this simple faith I don’t fear either aliens, demons or robots. If I had to face them armed only with my own intellect and some wise teachings however, I wouldn’t fancy my chances!
Thank you very much for allowing me to leave my comments.
Exotica is not a Christian show, nor is my role one of doctrinaire. I do not agree with all views represented, but respect the work of the researchers on a number of levels. I think the testimony of Dr. Silverman regarding Yeshua speaks volumes. He is far less cynical of your views than you of his, or Mr. Kerner.
I think it is clear to my listeners that I believe Yeshua to be the Messiah, and Himself God. What Nigel believes is that souls come from the God, Yahweh but that “man” has been altered continually by the ETs. That is his research and it bears some consideration, as the scriptures seem to indicate the same.
Also, I am not promoting fear of aliens, but it is clear that you have not a clue as to the terror of abduction. Your “simple faith” is simple-minded when forced to deal with people who are “taken” as small children and subjected to probings, implants, genetic grafts…and having their memories erased, along with large chunks of missing time.
I appreciate that faith is a powerful weapon, but abductees/contactees would tell you that it better be real strong…in fact you better be near Christ level; these aliens ARE powers and principalities. Major league spiritual warfare, and people die all the time as result of it.
As to the “God of the Bible”…really you have an interpretation of the Bible…read it with new eyes and see what it really tells you about the ETs/angelic powers. I am all for full on spiritual warfare, but I would not assume you can prevail on “simple” faith. I appreciate the comments, but disagree on a few points.
Randy , you have opened a large floor for discussion to get at the truth . Before I share , give you this . All men have a fishing pole with a real with line and a hook at the end with bait to catch a desired meal for his table . Many streams and rivers to choose from , each man has a choice , time and effort . Spiritually discern. I liked the research and the labor put into it , very important what was shared . I thank your guests. What words of importance from this show ! …. Hard wired , Change your mind , Natural and Artificial , devil said i will give you all these thing if you will fall down and worship me etc etc . I’ll share from the bible some things . Soul consciousness …… Adam was a living soul …now look at this ….. Genesis 2 : 19 …. what God brought before Adam what ever Adam called every living creature , that was the name thereof . Look what ability God gave Adam ….. amazing soul . Church-e-anity has hard wired 10s of millions . Change your mind to the facts what is in the spirit realm around you or in you . ”I” believe what Jesus would say today ….Satan ! I will take it from you ….. you ain’t given me anything ; no deals. God had a plan with Jesus for creation and all mankind long time ago ,more can be added to this later . Our natural air , water and food is being contaminated for a reason . Artificial ; to deceive , steal , kill , destroy and a long shelf life . The truth will set us free Randy . I find it interesting that crashes do happen with artificial things . Gift of Faith !!! …. God kind of Faith . Jesus Spirit words
While I understand Mr. Slaughters warning of gnostic doctrine I feel he is missing the bigger picture here. I find it … refreshing… that scholars and the like, unencumbered by dogma and the policing of thought can and have come to many of the same conclusions regarding extra- spiritual-dimensional-terrestrial…. encounters as that of my Christian brethren. More importantly that they seem to understand the limits of matter and a connection with that to an imitation creation that is trying to imitate the light.
While I don’t agree 100% with their views, that is probably a good thing in the course of learning new things. If Nigel and the others only listened/participated with people that share their views they would not be open to the very concepts we both share regarding the nature of “evil”. I think that as a show that investigates the paranormal, this show digs deeper than all the others and is a good example for listeners of Randy’s other shows, of thinking outside the box. Sheeesh people it’s ok to ask questions.
The shroud has been scientifically proven to be a fake. If you take a drawing of Leonardo and place it over top of the face on the shroud they are the same. This was proven using face recognition software.
I am happy to entertain your comments, but could you please provide some source references to back them up. Since you state that scientific evidence is offered, I trust you will share that information with us. I will forward your information to Dr. Andrew Silverman to answer, as he will be returning with Nigel and Prof. Biggerstaff in early January for another show. I. myself have maintained a modest skepticism on the shroud, but I think Dr. Silverman rebuts the long-standing carbon dating controversy (and yes, I am likewise skeptical of thwe veracity of carbon dating in general.)
Having said that, I think the evidence presented by Nigel in his book is very strong, based upon the information provided there. It would be wise to not quickly leap to judgments based upon second-hand allegations, but rather to view all available data and make an informed opinion. This is a rather important subject, worthy of our best efforts toward truth.
Randy Maugans