Linda Garten says:

Loved the show. The Lord showed me many years ago I would be doing battle with these beings. I am not crazy after all..lol. Thanks for sharing Ronnie and thank you Randy for obeying the voice of the Lord.

Dave says:

I listened to Ronnie several years ago when I was listening to the circuit and stopped as it was more of the same, UFO crowd. It sounds like he has matured some and is seeing the bigger picture spiritually. I cringed a little when hearing the Genesis 6 reference (How ironic, the timing) so I wonder how far his views are from the fallen angel crowd.

Actually I was surprised to hear this on the Threshing-Floor. Zeph has had him on a number of times but I think it shows that while there is a defenite line that is crossed doctrinally in some of his views, there is room for those of us that are still progressing (called) out of “religion” and to the true things of God and it takes longer for some than others. I’m proof of that.

Dave says:

Randy, I agree and appreciate the spirit in which you not only had Ronnie on, but your taking the time to comment on the show. I look forward to continuing this line of thought and your experiences as well as.

As for me, I’ve been all over the board on this subject. I try to look at the possiblities of what Paul has stated; Pre-Adamic huminoid race with high technology, the possibility that this is present day mans unpublished technology as well as the claims of the main stream UFO crowd looking for a technological savior.

To Pauls theory; While an active universe(s) of flesh and blood beings is certainly possible and not dicounted, their motivations are, as well as what role they play in Gods plan to see us transformed from what we are now, into the position of authority he has promised for us should we have faith in Him, is unclear. As to Ronnie’s mention of the Eisenhower meeting and other legends akin to it…. who knows? In my mind they are just that, legends. A death bead “confession” doesn’t make it true and may give one food for thought but not enough for an informed picture of the true state of what is going on.

As I am a bit narcasistic and have trouble multi-tasking, I have trouble keeping continuity of multiple races interacting under the authority of God on a Universal scale. Given one law (His) and one judgement, it would seen that even with Gods timelesness, all of his creation are under the same timeframe and motivations, that is to either be given grace or be condemed. In that sense I suppose it’s overly black and white… but it helps my tiny mind keep it manageable.

Honestly I think that man is overlooked as to what they can accomplish and is capable of. Take the works of Tesla and others and it becomes apparent that for what ever reason, some mens minds have the ability to see things that we do not, be it a mathimatical formula, the ability to picture complex structures in their mind or playing a piano concerto at age 5. God has given to some the abilties and insights that most don’t. Now to take those gifts and to be led astray by spiritual forces, abused by material kingdoms or stolen by thieves…. well with great power comes great responsibiltiy.

Regardless of what or whom the technologies derive from, it is imperitive to keep an open mind and be prepared, spiritually. Funny, there is an air of excitement mixed with fear these days. Like a tugging in both directions. It brings to mind a saying from a movie, don’t know which one but it just popped into my head…. “like not enough butter spread over too much bread.”

To end this long rambling verbage. The thought also occurs to me that many times what is proposed in the main stream media is the opposite of the truth. The crypto-christians link UFO’s to fallen angelic beings and dark forces. I suppose it’s possible that the opposite is true, that what we are seeing is sent by the almighty, coporeal or otherwise. They may have a mission as well. I’ve never seen a UFO, ever. A lot of nights staring up into the star filled nights in the Sierra Nevada mountains in California when I was younger gave me glimpses of satalites, meteorites and comets, but never anythig I couldn’t assign a name to. Personally, I’m ok with that.

Steve Knox says:

Heard this show and just wanted to weigh in on it.

Actually I found very little to disagree with Ronnie McMullen about. First I will address his view of the NT which seems to have set off a trip wire. There actually IS quite a bit that is skewed about the new testament, and there are certainly translation issues, especially in the W-H derived versions. But I venture to say that 99% percent of these issues stem from the fact that too much doctrine was formulated from a standpoint of controlling the masses with ‘morality’: a utopian vision of ‘a better life now’. Unfortunately, those of us arriving here from Churchland have inherited these utopian delusions, and this makes up the baggage that keeps us ever from the truth.

What I have found through my studies, and most particularly during my time with Threshers, is that the NT needs to be examined from the standpoint of the entire plan of God, not just “what can I get out of it for ME’. The metaphoric language is beginning to crack this open a little bit, but the lion’s share of the work is yet ahead.

The Word of God IS TRUE. But we just don’t understand it all yet. Ronnie has apparently found some contradictions, but we know that if there appear to be contradictions, then that is evidence that we don’t understand what’s really at play. Randy tactfully addressed this briefly in his response to Ronnie on this issue, but I have listened to Randy enough to know where he wanted to go, even though the tenor of the conversation would not permit a full explanation.

So in this vein, Ronnie’s comments trouble me not at all, and Randy’s response to them left the door open to revisiting the issue later.

Moving on to his view on Giants. Basically he subscribes to the fallen angel theory of Genesis 6 (as I currently do), albeit with a few modifications that are novel and interesting. While I’m not ready to say that I ‘believe’ that genetically engineered giants are coming to get us, the technology is there and I don’t find the concept to be all that far out of the range of possibility.

Having said that, I have to confess that I’m not all that worried about giants coming to get us. We do have the protection of Christ (as Ronnie said early in the show), and I trust God enough to believe that if power is needed to deal with this, then we shall have it at that time.

The only thing that worries me is the notion that we need to accumulate and cultivate that power NOW, before the time. I think that is very dangerous. The very desire for it betrays mistrust for the miracles that were promised to us.

The power that Ronnie speaks of is quite real, but there is no way that He would give it to us before it is actually needed. God is not an idiot. That would be a recipe for a vile willfulness unprecedented in the history of man on the earth. We cannot know the depth and richness of God’s plan in enough detail to willfully go out and seek whom we may devour.

Our task is to trust the Spirit, and be a willing vessel in the instant that a move of the Spirit happens. There is never any warning, no preparation is possible. I should say that we are prepared during our regular walk with Christ, and the adversities he delivers to us conform our hearts to His own and make us ready to receive that power in the instant that it is needed.

I do not believe that it is a righteous thing to desire and seek for a power that has already been promised to us. To do this is to despise the promise.

Regards,
Steve

Joey Phillips says:

Take 8 hours out of your week and watch this.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335#

Much explained here, although I do not agree with 100% of what is being brought forth….it did indeed increase my thoughts on what reality is and how the universe is structured in relationship to ancient civilizations.