The Threshing Floor Radio Show-December 4, 2009-Randy Maugans
“I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.”-John 17:15
The deception of the rapture doctrine continues, as false teachers abound—twisting words, constructing doctrine from fragments of scripture…superimposing another gospel, and blurring the genuine meaning of the end times ministry of believers.
rupture—from Latin ruptura fracture, from ruptus, past participle of rumpere to break
1 : breach of peace or concord; specifically: open hostility or war between nations
3 : a breaking apart or the state of being broken apart
One such teacher, encountered on Facebook and YouTube, was countered by this ministry in the interest of correcting profound errors in his rendering of 2Thessolaonians chapter 2.
This show details WHY the rapture—now mis-attributed to the Greek word, harpazo, to remove the stain of the “R” word —is the single most dangerous deception to the modern day believers.
No holds barred: we speak a sure word against such teachers—and a dire warning to the believer that the rapture is a TRAP—a delusion—and a snare—that will cause many to lose their faith and fall away as the world moves into the global meat grinder now being prepared. The church will be divided…ruptured…across the lines of abiding faith or hopeless apostasy.
Links:
Refutation: Alan Horvath’s Teaching of 2Thessolonians 2:7 – PDF
Alan Horvath’s Video: 2Thessalonians 2:7—The Holy Spirit As the Restrainer- YouTube
Alan Horvath’s Video: Response to Randy Re: 2 Thessalonians 2:7- YouTube
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2 Thess 2: 7 Most certainly explains that the Holy Ghost is going to reveal the working of Satan in these last days and the Holy Ghost will keep the evil at bay until Christ comes back and destroys the devil with the breath [ Holy Spirit] of His mouth.
Alan apparently cannot see the forest through the trees . The Holy Ghost shall keep us from the hour of temptation that is coming on the earth. The temptation is to fall headlong into the strong delusion to believe a lie. It is tempting to believe this lie as it is promoted and accepted more than the truth and to admit oneself to agreeing to this lie and changing their mind , would be equal to the the man selling all of his goods and giving it to the poor. He will sadly not do it as he has promoted so many lies that he will walk away and the state of that man is worst than the beginning . Paul
You may not be aware that the world is going to end on May 21, 2011 according to Harold Camping. As he says on his website:
“Sadly, the Holy Bible tells us that only a small percentage of today’s world will turn from their evil ways, and with great humility and fear will cry to God for mercy. Nevertheless, the Bible assures us that many of the people who do beg God for His mercy will not be destroyed. We learn from the Bible that Holy God plans to rescue about 200 million people (that is about 3% of today’s population). On the first day of the Day of Judgment (May 21, 2011) they will be caught up (raptured) into Heaven because God had great mercy for them. This is why we can be so thankful that God has given us advance notice of Judgment Day. Because God is so merciful, maybe He will have mercy on you.”
I’ll give you my further thoughts concerning this on May 22, 2011.
Camping truly IS a false prophet on every front:
He is 501(c)3 corporation, promotes a false rapture doctrine, and has been consistently WRONG about nearly everything since 1998…except for getting out of the churches. But then, he turned around and formed his own “ministry” with all the religious trappings of a church…a double-minded man…perhaps triple.
I, for one, have no desire to be raptured…I’m in for the duration, which will be longer than the next 48 hours…much longer!
John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
TAKE THEM NOT OUT OF THE WORLD? how difficult is that to understand?
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
It is the tribulation that sanctifies them through the truth, which washes their robe white.
Yev 7-14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, (((These are they which came out of great tribulation))), and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION? this is quite easy to understand.
ACTS 14 22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, (((and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God))).
MUCH TRIBULATION? once again not rocket science.
This is not difficult metaphoric language, but rather the simplicity of the gospel.
Even the sealed remnant seed of God the 144,000 go through the fire of tribulation.
Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is((( tried))): they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
Tried means tribulation, we are tried in the furnice of fire. it is part of the baptism.
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, (((and with fire))):
Even the sealed remnant seed of God the 144,000 go through the fire of tribulation
2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
(((ALL))). DOES THIS REALLY MEAN ALL, OR JUST A FEW? i should say that it means everyone who follows the Lamb where ever He goes will face persecution. There is no special group of anti-grvity climbers.
The rapture is but just one more carnal contrived spider-man plot to climb back into heaven.
John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, (((but climbeth up some other way))), the same is a thief and a robber.
God Bless
Bill