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“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”- 1John 2:22
Originally posted: October 10, 2007-Taken from the JHM TV Show
This video eventually erupted into a major viral web story which landed Threshing Floor into the flame wars of a controversy. Rest of story here.
In a promotional video for his new book “In Defense of Israel”, Pastor John Hagee, director of Christians United For Israel (CUFI) makes astonishing assertions regarding the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ. Hagee claims:
The Jewish people, as a whole did not reject Jesus as Messiah.
Jesus did not come to Earth to BE the Messiah.
Jesus refused by word and deed to be the Messiah.
The Jews cannot be blamed for not accepting what was never offered.
See and hear the video for yourself—you decide:
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised…”-Luke 4:18
Did Jesus lie when He affirmed to Peter (a jew), in response to Peter’s statement, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”—“flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 16:16-17)
Hagee, a major figure in Evangelical Christianity and the powerful figurehead for Christian Zionism in America, and around the world has now repudiated the entire Gospel of Jesus Christ and twisted the intent of God, Himself who sent Christ “to the jew first”.
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John 4:25-26 (KJV)
25The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
Looks like he hasn’t read these verses.
what i heard from mr. hagee is very disturbing and alarming. To say that Jesus did not come to earth to be Messiah contradicts and distorts the entire teaching of the Pauline epistles and the Gospels. This is what the scriptures reports in Colosians ” Beware of people who take you captive through false philosophy and empty deceit according to the doctrines of this world “.
“To say that Jesus did not come to earth to be Messiah contradicts and distorts the entire teaching of the Pauline epistles and the Gospels.”
Rather, the Pauline epistles and the Gospels distort the meaning of the term Messiah. Messiah means “Anointed”.
Don’t you recall reading in 1st Samuel that David had numerous chances to kill king Saul when he was pursuing David, yet David constantly said “I will not lay my hand on the Lord’s Anointed”? And at the beginning of 2nd Samuel (Saul has just committed suicide at the end of 1st Samuel) an Amalekite comes to David claiming to have killed Saul. And what does David say? “Your own mouth is witness against you that you have killed the Lord’s Anointed.” Guess what the Hebrew word there is. If you guessed Messiah, then you are right.
All the Israelite kings were called “Messiah” that is “Anointed.” This is a title of the monarchy. Messiah does not mean God-man. Messiah does not mean Human Sacrifice. Messiah means an Israelite King, a literal one, not a mythical king who rules some invisible kingdom that has no organization. (A more disorganized and anarchistic kingdom than the church could hardly be imagined.)
Now what is obvious, is that Jesus did come to be a Messiah (a not the because there is no such thing as a “the Messiah” since there have been may Messiahs) in the normative Jewish sense of the term and Paul changed the whole meaning of the word Messiah to mean something entirely Pagan and thus created a new religion totally unintended by Jesus.
Hagee obviously is interpreting the word Christ (anointed) as a misspelling of Chrestos (good) in order to avoid seeing it as a translation of Messiah. Interestingly, since Greek scribes treated this term as a “nomina sacra” and wrote it as XS with a line over the top instead of writing the word in full, we don’t really know whether Paul wrote Christos or Chrestos.
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There is only ONE Messiah with a capital M. He is He who confirmed the covenant. Everything in the OT points to Jeus Christ. Jesus Christ is “EVERYTHING”. He is the High Priest, Shilo, The King, The Lamb of God, Israel, the Ark, The Saviour, the only Redeemer, Son of man, the Word made flesh. Paul was pointing to Jesus Christ just as the whole Old Testiment points to HIM.
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Peace be with you
Bill